# They Don't Have the Power: Utilities Expert Debunks the AI Data Center Myth | 5/7/26

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Podcast: [Conservative Review with Daniel Horowitz](https://stenobird.com/podcast/conservative-review-with-daniel-horowitz-48748)
Published: 2026-05-07T17:10:00+00:00
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## Resource

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