# Nelson ZêPequéno of Black Men With Gardens and Cayetano Talavera of Hecho By Caye on why fashion needs to listen to nature's lessons on slowing down, tuning in, practicing patience & cultivating creativity to better center sustainability

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Published: 2024-07-02T14:05:00+00:00
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## Resource

Episode 322 features Nelson ZêPequéno , a Ghanaian-American Artist and the founder of Black Men With Gardens and Sustain Creative, alongside Cayetano Talavera , a fiber artist, zero waste fashion designer, and the creative force behind HECHO BY CAYE. Through 'Black Men With Gardens', a digital and print publication, Nelson spotlights the connection Black and Brown communities cultivate with nature through agriculture and the arts. He further exploring cultural identity and environmental stewardship through his Los Angeles-based studio 'Sustain Creative', his current body of works offer a fresh perspective on sustainable contemporary design. Based in Los Angeles, Cayetano transforms foraged plants, homegrown flowers, insects, and even food waste into natural dyes, for his designs in the cocina de su mamá. His journey into the world of sustainable design was shaped by his humble upbringing, where he discovered the importance of resourcefulness and waste reduction. "Creativity is a way of looking at life differently, and by stepping outside of the way that we're seeing life or our own perceptions and experimenting, we're able to open up those new neural pathways and to reach these new places in life. For me specifically, I like to think that creativity is actually the solution not only to the mental health crisis that we're all dealing with, but to actually the sustainability challenges that we're facing. We need to embolden creativity in our culture and our communities so that people can look at the challenges that we have and come up with different ways of approaching it. We can't essentially just fix the problems that we face now with the same thought processes that led us here, and the only way to get outside of that actually is to be creative." -Nelson "The rhythmic…

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