# Anna Bario of Bario Neal on why jewelry is integral to pushing fashion to be more sustainable, why small businesses have power to instigate change & how "investment" in jewelry can reflect economic trends Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/conscious-chatter-322689/anna-bario-of-bario-neal-on-why-jewelry-is-integral-to-pushing-fashion-to-be-more-sustainable-why-small-businesses-have-power-to-instigate-change-how-investment-in-jewelry-can-reflect-economic-trends Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/conscious-chatter-322689/anna-bario-of-bario-neal-on-why-jewelry-is-integral-to-pushing-fashion-to-be-more-sustainable-why-small-businesses-have-power-to-instigate-change-how-investment-in-jewelry-can-reflect-economic-trends.md Podcast: [Conscious Chatter](https://stenobird.com/podcast/conscious-chatter-322689) Published: 2025-01-28T14:55:00+00:00 Episode link: https://www.consciouschatter.com/2025/01/28-episode-326-bario-neal-investment-pieces-sustainable-jewelry Audio file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/consciouschatter/Conscious_Chatter_326_Bario_Neal_Anna_Barrio_Investment_Pieces_Sustainable_Fashion_Jewelry.mp3?dest-id=523042 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/conscious-chatter-322689/episodes/anna-bario-of-bario-neal-on-why-jewelry-is-integral-to-pushing-fashion-to-be-more-sustainable-why-small-businesses-have-power-to-instigate-change-how-investment-in-jewelry-can-reflect-economic-trends Duration seconds: 3488 ## Resource In Episode 326, Kestrel welcomes Anna Bario, the cofounder of Bario Neal, to the show. Bario Neal creates stunning jewelry while being committed to respecting human rights and environmental sustainability. Anna cofounded the brand alongside Page Neal, in 2008, with an interest in bringing sustainability into the discourse surrounding creativity, fine jewelry and craft. An exceptional designer and also a specialist in responsible gold and gemstone sourcing, Anna's work in sustainable initiatives and social impacts defines the framework for Bario Neal's ethical jewelry roadmap. "I think [for] jewelry especially, the investment question becomes entangled with presentation … we also see that culturally come through jewelry trends. Just like in fashion, pant legs get shifted and there's so many ways we could interpret that as a reflection of the culture. And in jewelry, after the 2008 recession, jewelry got really small. Part of that was because of what people could afford, but also it was sort of like socially, what do we want to present?"-Anna JANUARY THEME — EXPLORING THE NUANCE AROUND INVESTMENT PIECES This episode is part of a partnership with Bario Neal. One of the pieces included in this collab was a redesign of my wedding and engagement rings. If you're wondering why I would redesign my wedding rings? They felt a little too traditional for my aesthetic, especially as I've matured, and also – the prong setting of the lab grown diamond just wasn't practical – it was always getting caught doing all the things connected to mom life. In this episode, we not only get an intimate look behind the scenes of what building an ethical jewelry roadmap means to Bario Neal, we also dive deeper into this month's theme of investment pieces. One thing Anna brings up that is such an i… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/conscious-chatter-322689/episodes/anna-bario-of-bario-neal-on-why-jewelry-is-integral-to-pushing-fashion-to-be-more-sustainable-why-small-businesses-have-power-to-instigate-change-how-investment-in-jewelry-can-reflect-economic-trends/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/conscious-chatter-322689/anna-bario-of-bario-neal-on-why-jewelry-is-integral-to-pushing-fashion-to-be-more-sustainable-why-small-businesses-have-power-to-instigate-change-how-investment-in-jewelry-can-reflect-economic-trends.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.