# Can Psychology Help Us Become More Like Christ? with Jo Johnson

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Podcast: [Confronting Christianity with Rebecca McLaughlin](https://stenobird.com/podcast/confronting-christianity-with-rebecca-mclaughlin-5609832)
Published: 2026-02-03T06:00:09+00:00
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Duration seconds: 2095

## Resource

Are human beings basically good—or fundamentally broken? Rebecca is joined by clinical neuropsychologist Jo Johnson to explore what decades of psychological work reveal about human nature, shame, and our deep sense that something is “off.” Together they argue that Christianity doesn’t deny our inner darkness, but offers the only true freedom: being fully known and fully loved in Jesus. Buy Jo's Book: Disentangled Use code WORSHIP for 30% off "All of Me" by Cheryl Marshall at thegoodbook.com —and download your free study guide today. Find Battling Unbelief wherever books are sold, or visit crossway.org/battlingunbelief to get 30% off with a free Crossway+ account.

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