# Ep 49: April 14, 2026: Is War Ever Proportional? Gaza, Hamas, and the Rules of Conflict

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Published: 2026-04-14T13:53:20+00:00
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Episode Summary In this episode of Conflict Uncovered, host Eliot Chodoff is joined by Zev Uslan for a deep discussion on the Gaza war, proportionality in war, international law, and the ethics of modern conflict. Together, they examine how just war theory applies to the Israel-Hamas war, including the principles of discrimination, civilian immunity, and proportionality in asymmetric warfare. The conversation explores whether the public understanding of “proportionality” matches its actual meaning in military ethics and international law, and how Hamas’s use of civilian infrastructure complicates military decision-making. Eliot and Zev also discuss the distinction between punitive retaliation and full-scale war, the role of civilian casualties in urban warfare, and how political support, governance, and ideology shape perceptions of innocence and responsibility in Gaza. Drawing on history, military doctrine, and legal frameworks, this episode offers a serious examination of some of the hardest questions surrounding the Israel-Gaza conflict, including the laws of armed conflict, the morality of targeting decisions, and the broader debate over how democracies fight enemies embedded within civilian populations. This episode is essential listening for anyone seeking a deeper understanding of war ethics, Gaza, Hamas, Israel, civilian harm, and the legal and moral dilemmas of modern warfare.

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