# The economics of discovery, with Ben Reinhardt

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Podcast: [Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie (patio11)](https://stenobird.com/podcast/complex-systems-with-patrick-mckenzie-patio11-6944962)
Published: 2025-12-04T08:03:54+00:00
Episode link: https://www.complexsystemspodcast.com/the-economics-of-discovery-with-ben-reinhardt/
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## Resource

In this episode, Patrick McKenzie (patio11) is joined by Ben Reinhardt, founder of Speculative Technologies, to examine how science gets funded in the United States and why the current system leaves much to be desired. They dissect the outdated taxonomy of basic, applied, and development research, categories encoded into law that fail to capture how actual breakthrough science happens. – Full transcript available here: www.complexsystemspodcast.com/the-economics-of-discovery-with-ben-reinhardt/ – Sponsors: GiveWell & Framer Support proven charities that deliver measurable results and learn how to maximize your charitable impact with GiveWell . First-time donors can go to givewell.org , pick “Podcast” and enter COMPLEXSYSTEMS at checkout to get $100 matched. Framer is a design and publishing platform that collapses the toolchain between wireframes and production-ready websites. Design, iterate, and publish in one workspace. Start free at framer.com/design with code COMPLEXSYSTEMS for a free month of Framer Pro. – Links: Speculative Technologies: https://spec.tech Ben Reinhardt's website: https://benjaminreinhardt.com Bits About Money: https://www.bitsaboutmoney.com/ – Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (00:26) Understanding focused research organizations (FROs) (01:52) The evolution of science funding (03:59) Taxonomy of research: basic, applied, and development (06:14) Challenges in science funding and research (08:12) The role of process knowledge in research (18:52) The bureaucracy of tech transfer offices (20:00) Sponsors: GiveWell & Framer (22:33) Critique of tech transfer offices (25:20) The burden of bureaucracy on researchers (44:34) Emerging solutions and optimism in research (46:58) Wrap

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