# Why Being Interested Beats Being Interesting

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Podcast: [Communicast: A Communication Skills Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/communicast-a-communication-skills-podcast-4432989)
Published: 2026-07-28T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Today, I'm joined by Grant "Upbeat" Bosnick, leadership expert, executive coach, keynote speaker, former professional musician, and founder of YES! (Your Empowering Solutions). For more than 25 years, Grant has helped leaders and organizations across 45 countries develop stronger leaders, build high-performing teams, and navigate change. In this episode, Grant and I explore what truly separates great communicators from everyone else. We discuss why communication is ultimately about creating connection, why the best leaders know when to speak and when to stay silent, and how trust, responsiveness, and genuine curiosity shape every meaningful conversation. We also talk about leading in the age of AI, influencing others without manipulation, and why listening with your heart may be one of the most important communication habits you can develop. Whether you're leading a team, coaching employees, managing change, or simply looking to become a stronger communicator, you'll walk away with practical ideas you can put to work immediately. Let's dive in.

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