# 210. Building Seven Figures Without Running a Single Ad ft. Kate Assaraf Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/commerce-untold-6726169/210-building-seven-figures-without-running-a-single-ad-ft-kate-assaraf Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/commerce-untold-6726169/210-building-seven-figures-without-running-a-single-ad-ft-kate-assaraf.md Podcast: [Commerce Untold](https://stenobird.com/podcast/commerce-untold-6726169) Published: 2026-06-05T12:30:00+00:00 Episode link: https://vimmi.net/mastering-ecommerce-marketing/210-building-seven-figures-without-running-a-single-ad-ft-kate-assaraf Audio file: https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/b8f4c1de-139e-41ec-82bc-e585fcf4a6a2.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/commerce-untold-6726169/episodes/210-building-seven-figures-without-running-a-single-ad-ft-kate-assaraf Duration seconds: 1876 ## Resource Kate Assaraf is the CEO and founder of dip sustainable, a plastic-free haircare brand she launched in 2021 that hit seven figures within 18 months without running a single paid ad. Before starting dip, she spent 20 years inside the beauty industry, long enough to see the deceptive marketing practices that eventually pushed her to build something completely different. Most DTC beauty brands launch with paid social, influencer seeding, and a race to acquire customers fast. Kate did the opposite. She cold-called refill stores, traveled across the country to meet sustainable retailers face to face, and built distribution through brick-and-mortar before she ever thought about digital advertising. Today, dip is carried in all 50 states and has sold over 300,000 bars by word of mouth alone. The conversation covers why Kate chose physical retail over digital-first, how she thinks about authentic customer marketing in a category overrun by sponsored content and AI-generated testimonials, and why she built her own factory after her contract manufacturer went bankrupt. That last decision, vertically integrating manufacturing and fulfillment under one roof, turned out to be the most consequential call she made as a founder. Kate also takes on the sustainability conversation directly, pushing back on the moralizing that she believes drives people away from the movement rather than toward it. Her version of sustainability is inclusive, economics-driven, and grounded in saving customers money, not lecturing them. She explains why the dip conditioner bar, at $32 and lasting close to a year, is a stronger pitch than the environmental argument alone. Founders in CPG, beauty, and retail will come away with a rare perspective: what it actually looks like to build a consumer brand slowly,… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/commerce-untold-6726169/episodes/210-building-seven-figures-without-running-a-single-ad-ft-kate-assaraf/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/commerce-untold-6726169/210-building-seven-figures-without-running-a-single-ad-ft-kate-assaraf.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.