# Franklin Jonas and Curt Pires on Fireborn Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/comic-book-couples-counseling-podcast-76639/franklin-jonas-and-curt-pires-on-fireborn Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/comic-book-couples-counseling-podcast-76639/franklin-jonas-and-curt-pires-on-fireborn.md Podcast: [Comic Book Couples Counseling Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/comic-book-couples-counseling-podcast-76639) Published: 2026-04-17T04:05:39+00:00 Episode link: https://cbccpodcast.podbean.com/e/franklin-jonas-and-curt-pires-on-fireborn/ Audio file: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/ajrvziipaese248y/Curt_Pires_Franklin_Jonas_Fireborn_Comic_Book_Couples_Counseling_Main_Feed_Final_-_4_16_26_355_PMadft7.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/comic-book-couples-counseling-podcast-76639/episodes/franklin-jonas-and-curt-pires-on-fireborn Duration seconds: 4676 ## Resource It’s a topic we discuss a lot. When you love comics, you eventually want to make them. Curt Pires heard Franklin Jonas professing his love for the medium on a podcast. Immediately, he recognized a kindred spirit. Pires invited Jonas to play. The result is the new Image Comics series Fireborn, spinning out of Pires’ massive comic book playground, Lost Fantasy. Maybe you’ve already read the logline: Fireborn is Invincible meets How to Train Your Dragon meets Absolute Batman. Whoa, okay. That’s a lot, but what does that actually mean? On this week’s podcast, we get into it with Franklin Jonas and Curt Pires. We break down those other stories and consider what they owe to Spider-Man and his Amazing Fantasy #15 debut. Where do you begin when creating an F’d up Peter Parker? And did we mention the hot takes? Franklin Jonas has them! We give the musician the space to profess his passion for comics, champion his all-time favorite Daredevil run, and explain why not enough of you are reading the current JSA monthly written by Jeff Lemire. In Fireborn, Aaron Hillburg is a rich kid who runs face-first into Joseph Campbell’s Hero’s Journey. He answers the call to action, but when will he reject it? With great power there must also come great responsibility. One issue in, we got part one of that statement. Is part two coming? Let’s geek out about what comics can do that no TV pitch can ever contain. Fireborn #1 is out now from Image Comics. It’s written by Curt Pires and Franklin Jonas, illustrated by Patrick Mulholland, colored by Mark Dale, and lettered by Micah Myers. Make sure you’re following Franklin Jonas on Instagram and Curt Pires on BlueSky and Instagram. This Week's Sponsors Everyone loves to talk and debate about comics, but few people get to see what it’s actually like… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/comic-book-couples-counseling-podcast-76639/episodes/franklin-jonas-and-curt-pires-on-fireborn/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/comic-book-couples-counseling-podcast-76639/franklin-jonas-and-curt-pires-on-fireborn.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.