# Apollo Global Management’s Business Model Transformation Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/cold-call-634317/apollo-global-management-s-business-model-transformation Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/cold-call-634317/apollo-global-management-s-business-model-transformation.md Podcast: [Cold Call](https://stenobird.com/podcast/cold-call-634317) Published: 2025-11-11T11:10:01+00:00 Episode link: https://hbr.org/podcast/2025/11/apollo-global-managements-business-model-transformation Audio file: https://audio.hbr.org/cold-call/20251110114539-ApolloGlobalManagement_sBusinessModelTransformation.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/cold-call-634317/episodes/apollo-global-management-s-business-model-transformation Duration seconds: 1756 ## Resource Apollo Global Management has transformed itself from a traditional private equity giant into an insurance-fueled credit powerhouse—thanks to its acquisition of life annuity issuer Athene. CEO Marc Rowan makes a bold bet that an asset-heavy model, which is backed by hundreds of billions in long-term insurance liabilities, can drive repeatable, superior returns and propel Apollo’s assets under management to $1.5 trillion. However, public markets award Apollo a multitude on its earnings that is far lower than asset-light peers like Blackstone, which highlights important trade-offs. Harvard Business School professor George Serafeim joins host Brian Kenny to discuss the questions raised by the case, Apollo Global Management, and explore what Apollo’s transformation reveals about business-model innovation and risk management in today’s rapidly evolving private markets ecosystem, and what it means to be a modern investment firm. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/cold-call-634317/episodes/apollo-global-management-s-business-model-transformation/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/cold-call-634317/apollo-global-management-s-business-model-transformation.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.