# Jack Mallers on Failure, Integrity, and Walking Away from 21

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Published: 2026-07-30T14:18:00+00:00
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## Resource

In his first unrestricted one-on-one interview since stepping down as CEO of XXI, Jack Mallers joins Coin Stories to set the record straight on his departure and why he chose principles over a fortune on Wall Street. We discuss: Why he walked away from Twenty One Capital, and the disagreement that got him there His message to the people who invested because they believed in him Why he calls it a failure, and the guilt he says comes with it The blank check he was handed, and why he couldn't take it What he tells anyone who bought Bitcoin in 2021 and feels burned by the round-trip price action The one thing he says would send Bitcoin sharply higher Follow Jack Mallers on X https://x.com/jackmallers ---- Order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," a simple introduction to Bitcoin and what's broken in our current financial system: https://amzn.to/3WzFzfU ---- Borrow against your Bitcoin with Ledn, the global leader in Bitcoin-backed loans, issuing over $10 billion in loans since 2018, and they were the first to offer proof of reserves. With Ledn, you get custody loans, no credit checks, no monthly payments, and more. Get .25% off your first loan, learn more at https://www.Ledn.io/natalie ---- Speed is my go-to Bitcoin Lightning wallet! Send, receive, or swap stablecoins and digital gold into Bitcoin in one app. Run a business? Speed powers Bitcoin payments for Steak 'n Shake, and it can do the same for you. Download at https://speed.app/natalie and use code COINSTORIES10 for 5,000 free sats after your first transaction. ---- Abundant Mines is a fully-managed Bitcoin mining in the U.S. You own the miners. You keep 100% of the Bitcoin. Voted #1 mining company by peers. Get 1 month of free hosting: AbundantMines.com/Natalie ---- Natalie's Bitcoin Product Partners: Dow…

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