# Wahoo's Founder on AI, Failure, and 38 Years of Grind | Coffeez Ep. 307

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Podcast: [Coffeez with Joe Shalaby](https://stenobird.com/podcast/coffeez-with-joe-shalaby-6769774)
Published: 2026-07-10T13:00:35+00:00
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Duration seconds: 4495

## Resource

Wahoo's Fish Taco founder Wing Lam sits down with Joe after 38 years in the game. Buying Thrifty Ice Cream, why AI still can't replace hospitality, the trades comeback, launching brands on social media, referrals over everything, the mistakes that cost him a fortune, and why networking is the biggest opportunity most people miss. New episodes every week. Pour up. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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