# Joe Spector on Building Hims, Dutch & the Future of Telemedicine | Coffeez with Joe Shalaby

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Published: 2026-05-08T17:00:13+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of Coffeez for Closers, Joe sits down with Joe Spector, co-founder of Hims and founder of Dutch, to talk about building consumer healthcare brands that actually change people’s everyday lives. Joe shares how Hims started as an idea on a whiteboard and grew into a household name by making men’s wellness easier, more accessible, and less awkward to talk about. The conversation gets into the timing behind the opportunity, the rise of telemedicine, Viagra going generic, legal challenges in early digital healthcare, and what it takes to build a consumer brand in a category people are still uncomfortable discussing. Joe also opens up about being an immigrant, going through nearly a dozen startups that didn’t work, learning from failure, raising venture capital, and why preparation matters when the right opportunity finally shows up. They also discuss Dutch, pet telemedicine, fatherhood, fitness, community, and why the best consumer businesses are the ones that make people’s lives better. Hosted by Joseph Shalaby Coffeez for Closers Podcast Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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