# 305 - Sean Schertell, CEO and Founder of Codepilot

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Published: 2026-01-15T03:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode I talk with Sean Schertell about his return to Rails after many years in JavaScript, the pain of node module hell, Kamal for deployment, and Sean's new startup ZiaMap for land surveyors. Links: CodepilotZiaMapNonsense Monthly

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