# S12 Bonus: Yoav Crombie, Pragatix by AGAT Software

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Podcast: [Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders](https://stenobird.com/podcast/code-story)
Published: 2026-04-02T10:00:39+00:00
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## Resource

Yoav Crombie shares the journey of building Pragatix, a platform designed to enable secure enterprise AI adoption. He explores the technical challenges of implementing AI firewalls and the importance of maintaining visibility and control over agentic workflows.

## Highlights
- Main idea: Enterprises face a critical tension between wanting to adopt AI and the need to prevent sensitive data leaks
- Practical takeaway: Effective AI governance requires a multi-layered approach including agent control and model risk firewalls
- Failure mode: Relying on unmonitored public AI tools can expose sensitive corporate data to third-party models
- Main idea: Security tools must evolve from simple monitoring to active 'guardian agents' that oversee other AI agents
- Practical takeaway: Success in entrepreneurship requires looking ahead toward your goal rather than focusing on immediate obstacles

## Topics

Artificial Intelligence, Cybersecurity, Enterprise Software, AI Agents, Data Privacy, Startup Growth, Product Management, AI Governance

## Chapters
- 1:00 — The AI Firewall Architecture: An overview of Pragatix's approach to monitoring AI usage, managing agent tools, and implementing model risk firewalls.
- 5:50 — Lessons from Cybersecurity History: Reflecting on past experiences with mobile email security and the evolution of network protection.
- 8:20 — Solving the AI Adoption Gap: Addressing the enterprise need for visibility and control when using public AI services like ChatGPT.
- 10:40 — Driving AI Effectiveness: Using dashboards to provide intelligence on AI adoption and encouraging productive usage patterns.
- 13:00 — Product Management and Customer Needs: How direct customer interaction drives the development of innovative, high-demand features.
- 25:20 — Scaling in a Rapidly Evolving Market: The necessity of moving fast and leveraging the right team to lead in the AI security sector.
- 30:30 — The Entrepreneur's Mindset: Advice on thinking big and the importance of maintaining a clear, forward-looking vision.

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