# Does Trump Need China to End the War with Iran?

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Podcast: [CNN One Thing](https://stenobird.com/podcast/cnn-one-thing-5645403)
Published: 2026-05-13T08:30:00+00:00
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From tariffs to tough talk, President Donald Trump has long positioned himself on being tougher on China than any US president. Now, he heads to Beijing for a high-stakes state visit needing their help on a massive political problem: the war with Iran. We look at how both sides might navigate this moment and how Trump's pressure campaign may have helped China prepare for this moment of global instability. For more: The shadowy network of Chinese oil refineries funding Iran --- Guest: Simone McCarthy, CNN Senior China Reporter Host: David Rind Producer: Paola Ortiz Showrunner: Felicia Patinkin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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