# Inside the Struggle to ‘Self-Deport’

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Podcast: [CNN 5 Things](https://stenobird.com/podcast/cnn-5-things-716851)
Published: 2026-09-20T08:30:00+00:00
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As ICE arrests surge, the Trump administration continues to offer free flights and thousands of dollars to migrants who chose to voluntarily return to their country – they call it self-deportation. But the decision to leave – and the logistics that come with it – is anything but straightforward. CNN recently traveled with one family as they prepared to head back to Venezuela, leaving their life in the US behind.  For more: She wants to self-deport. But this pregnant mom is stuck in a strange subplot of Trump’s immigration enforcement crackdown  ---  Guest: Maeva Bambuck, CNN Cross-Platform Producer  Host: David Rind  Producer: Paola Ortiz  Showrunner: Felicia Patinkin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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