# How Can the US Strengthen, Improve, and Expand the DIB?

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Podcast: [CNA Talks: A National Security Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/cna-talks-a-national-security-podcast-788413)
Published: 2026-04-15T18:41:00+00:00
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## Resource

This episode explores CNA's Arsenal of Policy wargame, which is designed to explore opportunities to strengthen, improve, and expand the US defense industrial base (DIB). Guest Biographies Sarah Fusco is a specialist in international and non-traditional security threats. Her work focuses on emergent security challenges such as increasing partner capabilities in maritime security and domain awareness, countering violent extremism, and analyzing complex challenges through wargaming. Kaia Haney is an expert in African security, specializing in strategic competition on the continent and the African security environment. She has played a leading role in CNA wargames on the defense industrial base and the African operational environment. Further Reading CNA Report— Arsenal of Policy: Defense Industrial Base Wargame Final Report

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