# If It's in a Cardboard Box in the Garage, I Question Your Love

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Podcast: [Clutter Free Academy](https://stenobird.com/podcast/clutter-free-academy-422044)
Published: 2026-09-15T08:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://share.transistor.fm/s/5573a2c2
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Duration seconds: 1355

## Resource

Every home has one: the collection. Maybe it's Star Wars action figures still sealed in their packaging. Maybe it's comic books, stamps, ceramic knickknacks, or twelve bins of stuffed animals from 1987. And maybe — if we're being honest — it's taking up more real estate in the garage than anyone in the family is comfortable with. In this episode of Clutter Free Academy, Kathi Lipp and Tonya Kubo continue their conversation about what happens when a collector and a clutter-free person share a home. Tonya opens up about the ten-plus year journey she and her husband Brian have walked — starting with the moment she stopped focusing on his stuff and started dealing with her own, and how seven boxes leaving the garage changed everything. Why Focusing on Their Stuff Never Works Kathi and Tonya have given the same advice for over a decade, and they're not backing off it now: as long as you're focused on someone else's clutter, you will struggle to make progress on your own. But here's the encouraging part — when you do your own work, you often create the safety and the space for the people you love to start making their own decisions. Not as a manipulation tactic. As a byproduct. Living Collections vs. Dead Collections One of the most freeing ideas in this episode is Kathi's distinction between collections that are alive and collections that are, well, not. A living collection gets displayed, dusted, talked about, handed to a kid whose face lights up. A dead collection sits in a cardboard box in the garage getting eaten by mold, bugs, and water damage. As Kathi puts it, if the thing you love is in a box in the garage, she has questions about that love. What Listeners Will Take Away Why doing your own decluttering can quietly invite your spouse or child to do theirs How to have…

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