# 47 - Biometrics, Sabotage & $5 Trillion Infrastructure with Kevin Surace

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Podcast: [Cloud Currents](https://stenobird.com/podcast/cloud-currents-6702988)
Published: 2026-04-14T21:39:00+00:00
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## Resource

Kevin Surace — inventor of the world's first virtual assistant and the technology that laid the foundation for Siri — joins Cloud Currents for a wide-ranging conversation on the two forces reshaping enterprise tech: AI and cybersecurity. Kevin exposes why the MFA and authenticator apps most companies rely on are actively being exploited, and why biometric FIDO2 is the only real fix. He also gets candid about why 80% of AI rollouts are failing, what true AI-first culture actually looks like, and why the one-person, fifty-agent startup is coming for every traditional business that isn't paying attention.

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