# 37. Taming Kubernetes Complexity with Elliott Clarke

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Podcast: [Cloud Currents](https://stenobird.com/podcast/cloud-currents-6702988)
Published: 2025-07-07T19:52:00+00:00
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Join host Matt Pacheco as he sits down with Elliott Clark, CEO of Batteries Included and former Facebook infrastructure engineer, for a discussion about why giving developers Kubernetes is like handing them "a spinning ball of razor blades." Elliot shares hard-won insights from seven years at Facebook on cloud cost optimization, why security is fundamentally a human problem, and his revolutionary bring-your-own-compute approach that's democratizing enterprise-level infrastructure for startups and growing companies.

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