# #38: Supporting Leo Through Depression: The Role We Can Play As Partners Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/closer-with-rachel-lim-6348501/38-supporting-leo-through-depression-the-role-we-can-play-as-partners Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/closer-with-rachel-lim-6348501/38-supporting-leo-through-depression-the-role-we-can-play-as-partners.md Podcast: [CLOSER with Rachel Lim](https://stenobird.com/podcast/closer-with-rachel-lim-6348501) Published: 2025-03-24T23:50:00+00:00 Episode link: https://episode.flightcast.com/ms6xrb3fzm46hvsgmllpg4nu.mp3 Audio file: https://episode.flightcast.com/ms6xrb3fzm46hvsgmllpg4nu.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/closer-with-rachel-lim-6348501/episodes/38-supporting-leo-through-depression-the-role-we-can-play-as-partners Duration seconds: 1738 ## Resource After Leo’s episode, I was deeply moved by the messages that poured in, not just about his story, but about the unspoken weight many of you are carrying in your own lives. So many asked: How do you support someone you love when they’re struggling? How do you stay steady for them without losing yourself in the process? In this intimate solo episode, I share my personal experience; what it looked like to walk beside Leo during one of his hardest seasons. Not from a place of having it all figured out, but through the lens of the lessons it taught me. I open up about what helped, what didn’t, and the truths I had to learn the hard way; like not taking his withdrawal personally, listening to understand (not to fix), and continuing to show up with love, even when I felt emptied out. If you’re in that space right now, quietly holding it all together, I hope this conversation reminds you: You are not alone. And you are allowed to be strong and tired at the same time 💛 00:00 Introduction: Why This Episode Matters 01:38 Q&A: Navigating Turbulent Seasons in Relationships 02:15 The Subtle Signs: Spotting Early Symptoms of Depression 05:16 Creating a Safe Space for Vulnerability 09:25 How to Stay Resilient When There’s No Timeline 12:49 What Support Really Looks Like: Small Acts, Big Impact 16:29 My Own Breaking Point: Personal Struggles and Lessons 19:15 The Hardest Truths I Had to Learn 21:45 If I Could Speak to Her: A Heart-to-Heart With My Younger Self 26:45 Final Reflections & Closing Follow Rachel here: https://www.instagram.com/ms_rach/ Listen to Leo's story here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7cfdJMK348KROmJzLJzKgo?si=iT5YgN0xRG6ATPEHFTvHjQ ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/closer-with-rachel-lim-6348501/episodes/38-supporting-leo-through-depression-the-role-we-can-play-as-partners/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/closer-with-rachel-lim-6348501/38-supporting-leo-through-depression-the-role-we-can-play-as-partners.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.