# The Human Operating System of Legal Ops

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Podcast: [CLOC Talk](https://stenobird.com/podcast/cloc-talk-977401)
Published: 2026-06-25T04:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://cloc.org/podcasts/
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## Resource

In this thought-provoking episode of CLOC Talk , Oyango Snell and Mark Dean explore the intersection of neuroscience, legal operations, and AI adoption. The conversation examines how lawyers are trained to seek certainty and minimize risk, why that mindset can create barriers to innovation, and how legal professionals can reframe experimentation as a path to growth and better outcomes. Listeners will gain practical insights into change management, technology adoption, professional responsibility, and the mindset shifts needed to thrive in an AI-enabled future. Thank you to our sponsor, Discernis AI Native Discovery.

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