# CLOCWise 2025 Recap and Looking Ahead with Australia

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Podcast: [CLOC Talk](https://stenobird.com/podcast/cloc-talk-977401)
Published: 2026-01-22T07:30:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this special year-in-review episode of CLOC Talk , host Oyango Snell is joined by Australian legal ops leaders Anna Golovsky, Petra Sterling, and Matthew Duncan to reflect on the milestones, momentum, and lessons that shaped the Australian Legal Ops community in 2025—and to preview what’s ahead in 2026. Together, they explore how a “small but mighty” community is driving real impact through practical innovation, peer collaboration, and honest case studies. The conversation covers AI adoption and upskilling, spend and vendor management, CLM implementation, data governance, and knowledge management (“curate or wait”), along with the realities of law-firm collaboration and operating in highly regulated environments. They also discuss why ROI-focused AI use cases, mentoring, and community-led learning remain essential—and how Australia’s market dynamics can help influence the global legal ops conversation in the year to come.

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