# How the oldest bees on earth gained legal rights, with Rosa Vásquez Espinoza Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/climate-curious-3335844/how-the-oldest-bees-on-earth-gained-legal-rights-with-rosa-v-squez-espinoza Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/climate-curious-3335844/how-the-oldest-bees-on-earth-gained-legal-rights-with-rosa-v-squez-espinoza.md Podcast: [Climate Curious](https://stenobird.com/podcast/climate-curious-3335844) Published: 2026-05-06T05:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/climate-curious/episodes/how-the-oldest-bees-on-earth-gained-legal-rights-with-rosa-v Audio file: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/66a7865521900db7d7f9ae06/e/69f9fc4b1353c87e11cbcdcc/media.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/climate-curious-3335844/episodes/how-the-oldest-bees-on-earth-gained-legal-rights-with-rosa-v-squez-espinoza Duration seconds: 3546 ## Resource Stingless bees have been around since the dinosaurs, but until recently ignored by mainstream scientific studies From her lab in the heart of the Amazon, scientist Rosa Vásquez Espinoza has been busy proving that these insects are medicinal and agricultural superbugs that require respect – both socially and legally! In conversation with Climate Curious’ Ben Hurst and Maryam Pasha, Rosa breaks down how these ancient pollinators protect 80% of the Amazon’s flora (including your coffee and chocolate!), the historic win to protect these tiny bees’ legal rights, and why her grandmother inspired her to get into chemistry. Join the Climate Curious conversation on socials: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/climatecuriouspod/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@climatecuriouspod YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtF6xzNkVIczlDmVcH8FCMA LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/10996041/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TEDxLondon Website: https://tedxlondon.com/podcast/ All other links: https://linktr.ee/climatecuriouspod   Created by TEDxLondon Executive produced by Josie Colter Produced by Ben Beheshty Curated by Deesha Chandra Hosted by Maryam Pasha and Ben Hurst Communications by Tara Cooper and Issey Gladston Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/climate-curious-3335844/episodes/how-the-oldest-bees-on-earth-gained-legal-rights-with-rosa-v-squez-espinoza/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/climate-curious-3335844/how-the-oldest-bees-on-earth-gained-legal-rights-with-rosa-v-squez-espinoza.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.