# The magic trick

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Podcast: [Click Here](https://stenobird.com/podcast/click-here-223113)
Published: 2026-06-09T07:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

When people get hacked, security researcher Nick Bax says, it’s a lot like watching a magic trick. Your attention goes one way while something important happens somewhere else. In this CyberMonday crossover with WAMU and NPR’s 1A, we talk about the latest online scams and meet Jake Gallen. He didn’t click a suspicious link. He didn’t download malware. He just agreed to an interview. And then he watched some of his most valuable crypto assets just… disappear. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

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