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Podcast: [Click Here](https://stenobird.com/podcast/click-here-223113)
Published: 2026-05-01T07:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://play.prx.org/listen?ge=prx_8376_08613bc0-fe81-4cb0-b6e8-cd9456d9c22a&uf=https%3A%2F%2Fpublicfeeds.net%2Ff%2F8376%2Fclickhere
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## Resource

You buy a phone. A car. A tractor. But what do you actually own? We talk to legal scholar Aaron Perzanowski about how software and contracts are reshaping ownership — and why the right-to-repair movement is gaining traction. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

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