# Appellate Oral Argument Strategy: How to Argue Clear Losers, Clear Winners, and Toss Ups Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/cles-you-actually-want-to-hear-7072333/appellate-oral-argument-strategy-how-to-argue-clear-losers-clear-winners-and-toss-ups Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/cles-you-actually-want-to-hear-7072333/appellate-oral-argument-strategy-how-to-argue-clear-losers-clear-winners-and-toss-ups.md Podcast: [CLEs You Actually Want to Hear](https://stenobird.com/podcast/cles-you-actually-want-to-hear-7072333) Published: 2026-05-07T14:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://rss.com/podcasts/cle-you-actually-want-to-hear/2751209 Audio file: https://content.rss.com/episodes/294811/2751209/cle-you-actually-want-to-hear/2026_04_20_23_42_33_c66d0abe-bdf0-4501-83c9-b874e0ed117a.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/cles-you-actually-want-to-hear-7072333/episodes/appellate-oral-argument-strategy-how-to-argue-clear-losers-clear-winners-and-toss-ups Duration seconds: 3568 ## Resource Reid Ehrlich and Jerry Flanagan of Shernoff Bidart Echeverria LLP will walk through how to approach appellate oral argument differently depending on the type of case you're arguing — whether it's a clear loser, a clear winner, or one that could go either way. Drawing on real examples from California Courts of Appeal, including cases like Musso & Frank Grill Co. v. Mitsui Sumitomo Ins. USA Inc. and Coast Restaurant Group v. Amguard Ins. Co., they will explain how tentative opinions signal which category your case falls into and how to calibrate your strategy accordingly. Attorneys will leave with a concrete framework for damage control in losing appeals, efficient presentation in winning ones, and how to stay nimble and persuasive when the outcome is genuinely uncertain. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/cles-you-actually-want-to-hear-7072333/episodes/appellate-oral-argument-strategy-how-to-argue-clear-losers-clear-winners-and-toss-ups/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/cles-you-actually-want-to-hear-7072333/appellate-oral-argument-strategy-how-to-argue-clear-losers-clear-winners-and-toss-ups.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.