# Fueling Success Through Peer-to-Peer Conversations

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Podcast: [Cleinman Connect Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/cleinman-connect-podcast-6317562)
Published: 2026-05-27T06:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://cleinman.com/cleinman-connect-podcast/fueling-success-through-peer-to-peer-conversations
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## Resource

David Spisak is the Director of Peer-to-Peer Programming at Cleinman Performance Partners, a trusted business partner for independent optometry practices for over 35 years. With leadership experience across optometric, orthopedic, urology, and dental group practice operations, David brings an innovative, results-focused approach to healthcare teams. At Cleinman, he helps connect practice owners with shared insight, practical strategies, and trusted support to strengthen teams, foster accountability, and drive sustainable growth. In this episode… Building a successful practice takes more than good instincts and clear goals. When decisions get complex and ownership feels isolating, what helps leaders keep moving forward with confidence? For David Spisak, the key lies in commitment, the right team, and a circle of support that understands the realities of practice ownership. He explains that peer-to-peer conversations work best when members bring an abundance mindset, a willingness to learn, and the generosity to share what has worked and what has not. That combination creates more than a meeting group; it builds a trusted team where practice owners can grow through honest conversation, shared experience, and practical accountability. In this episode of the Cleinman Connect Podcast , Kim Carson is joined by David Spisak, Director of Peer-to-Peer Programming at Cleinman Performance Partners, to discuss how peer-to-peer groups help practice owners grow. David shares insights on what makes practices stand out, how Cleinman matches members for better outcomes, and why vulnerability matters. He also talks about innovation and what practice owners can look forward to next.

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