# Why Are We Electrifying So Slowly? The Electrification Staircase | Ep256: Adrian Hiel, Silvia Madeddu, William Drake & Thomas Butler

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Podcast: [Cleaning Up: Leadership in an Age of Climate Change](https://stenobird.com/podcast/cleaning-up-leadership-in-an-age-of-climate-change-858959)
Published: 2026-05-06T17:00:00+00:00
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