# Nathaniel Dubasik: Why Cleaners Lose Customers Without Realizing It

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Podcast: [Cleaner Conversations](https://stenobird.com/podcast/cleaner-conversations-7857420)
Published: 2026-05-25T00:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Nathaniel Dubasik has spent nearly 20 years helping dry cleaners understand automation, operations, kiosks, and the technology shaping the future of the industry. After years with Metal Progetti and firsthand experience growing up around dry cleaning, Nathaniel brings a unique perspective on what actually works inside a plant. In this episode of Cleaner Conversations, we dive into customer communication, AI, missed calls, kiosks, team buy-in, consolidation, and why every phone call can become a make-or-break moment for a customer relationship. This is a practical conversation packed with lessons from inside the industry, real examples from operators, and insight from someone who has seen dry cleaning from nearly every angle. Topics Covered: • Growing up in the dry cleaning industry • 19 years with Metal Progetti • Automation and team buy-in • Kiosks and changing customer expectations • The real cost of missed phone calls • PhoneClarity and AI-powered communication • Customer service and employee professionalism • Consolidation and the future of dry cleaning • Advice for owners navigating change and growth Subscribe for more conversations with operators, founders, marketers, and leaders across the garment care industry.

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