# Listening Isn’t Fixing: Creating Space for Presence in the Classroom with Kathryn Pannepacker

Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/classroom-narratives-healing-in-education-7021067/listening-isn-t-fixing-creating-space-for-presence-in-the-classroom-with-kathryn-pannepacker
Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/classroom-narratives-healing-in-education-7021067/listening-isn-t-fixing-creating-space-for-presence-in-the-classroom-with-kathryn-pannepacker.md
Podcast: [Classroom Narratives: Healing in Education](https://stenobird.com/podcast/classroom-narratives-healing-in-education-7021067)
Published: 2026-05-13T20:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://rss.com/podcasts/teachertestimony/2782430
Audio file: https://content.rss.com/episodes/288078/2782430/teachertestimony/2026_04_30_20_46_05_e7c306b0-26b2-4736-90ee-aa90b16781e8.mp3
Processing state: not_requested
JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/classroom-narratives-healing-in-education-7021067/episodes/listening-isn-t-fixing-creating-space-for-presence-in-the-classroom-with-kathryn-pannepacker
Duration seconds: 1840

## Resource

📝 Show Synopsis What if listening wasn’t about responding—but about being present? In this episode, Dr. Joey Weisler speaks with artist Kathryn Pannepacker about “intentional listening” as a practice of care, not correction. Through her Listening Loom project, Kathryn creates spaces where people are asked two simple questions: How are you doing? and What do you need? Together, they explore how educators can foster connection without becoming “fixers,” why presence matters more than performance, and how small moments of attention can reshape classroom culture. 🔗 Links and Resources 📌 Lisa Kay on the Classroom Narratives 📌 Bev Johns on the Classroom Narratives 📌 Restorative Practices in Education Through the Arts (Book) 📌 Kathryn’s website 📌 Kathryn’s listening loom: Eyewitness News ABC-7 📌 “I Saved A Chair For You”: work by Kathryn Pannepacker

## Actions

- request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/classroom-narratives-healing-in-education-7021067/episodes/listening-isn-t-fixing-creating-space-for-presence-in-the-classroom-with-kathryn-pannepacker/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode.
- read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/classroom-narratives-healing-in-education-7021067/listening-isn-t-fixing-creating-space-for-presence-in-the-classroom-with-kathryn-pannepacker.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource.

A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed.

## Transcript

Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.