# Invitation Over Compliance: Design Thinking in Classrooms with Dr. Fred Estes

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Podcast: [Classroom Narratives: Healing in Education](https://stenobird.com/podcast/classroom-narratives-healing-in-education-7021067)
Published: 2026-04-22T20:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://rss.com/podcasts/teachertestimony/2739980
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📝 Episodic Synopsis What happens when learning stops being about information—and starts becoming about invention? In this episode of Classroom Narratives: Healing in Education , Dr. Joey Weisler sits down with educator, author, and innovation specialist Dr. Fred Estes to explore how design thinking can transform the classroom into a space of agency, creativity, and real-world impact. Drawing from decades of experience across K–12 and higher education, Dr. Estes introduces the “ABCs of learning”—Agency, Belonging, and Competence—and challenges educators to move beyond traditional models of instruction that prioritize memorization over meaning. Together, Joey and Fred examine what it means to create classrooms rooted in invitation rather than force, where students are empowered to solve real problems, design for others, and reconnect with their own capacity for creativity. From working with marginalized students to redefining the role of play, this conversation reminds us that the most powerful learning environments are not the ones that demand engagement—but the ones students choose to enter. 📌 Show Notes and Resources Design Thinking: A Guide to Innovation (Dr. Fred Estes) Fred Estes website The Education Talk Show With Jeremy Brooks

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