# Empathy Without Self-Abandonment: Unhooking from Survival Mode in Leadership and Teaching with Leila Boutaleb Brousse Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/classroom-narratives-healing-in-education-7021067/empathy-without-self-abandonment-unhooking-from-survival-mode-in-leadership-and-teaching-with-leila-boutaleb-brousse Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/classroom-narratives-healing-in-education-7021067/empathy-without-self-abandonment-unhooking-from-survival-mode-in-leadership-and-teaching-with-leila-boutaleb-brousse.md Podcast: [Classroom Narratives: Healing in Education](https://stenobird.com/podcast/classroom-narratives-healing-in-education-7021067) Published: 2026-04-29T20:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://rss.com/podcasts/teachertestimony/2762913 Audio file: https://content.rss.com/episodes/288078/2762913/teachertestimony/2026_04_23_23_35_54_b7592f7b-5a8f-4bbe-86de-addfe8b4c43b.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/classroom-narratives-healing-in-education-7021067/episodes/empathy-without-self-abandonment-unhooking-from-survival-mode-in-leadership-and-teaching-with-leila-boutaleb-brousse Duration seconds: 1870 ## Resource 🧭 Episodic Synopsis What if burnout isn’t coming from the workload—but from disconnection? In this episode of Classroom Narratives , Dr. Joey Weisler sits down with leadership expert Leila Boutaleb Brousse, founder of Eyelee Growth and creator of the Unhooked Leadership Method, to explore what it really means to operate in “survival mode”—and why so many educators and leaders feel stuck there. Leila challenges the idea that empathy alone is enough, introducing a critical distinction: empathy without boundaries isn’t leadership—it’s self-sacrifice. Together, they unpack how people-pleasing, decision fatigue, and chronic overextension quietly erode both performance and identity over time. From emotional regulation to boundary-setting, this conversation offers a grounded, practical lens on how to reconnect with your “why,” reclaim your energy, and lead without losing yourself in the process. If you’ve ever felt like you’re constantly giving but slowly disappearing in the work—this one is for you. 🧩 Show Notes (Key Ideas & Takeaways) Survival mode isn’t about workload—it’s about disconnection. Burnout often stems from losing connection to purpose, meaning, and identity—not just being “too busy.” Decision fatigue is quietly draining educators. Thousands of daily micro-decisions—academic, behavioral, emotional—leave teachers mentally and physically depleted. Empathy without boundaries is not empathy—it’s self-sacrifice. What many educators call “empathy” is often unregulated people-pleasing that leads to burnout. People-pleasing starts as care—but becomes a self-sabotager. When driven by fear, validation, or approval, it erodes confidence, leadership presence, and self-trust. Working at 120% becomes the expectation—not the exception. Overperforming consistently resets th… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/classroom-narratives-healing-in-education-7021067/episodes/empathy-without-self-abandonment-unhooking-from-survival-mode-in-leadership-and-teaching-with-leila-boutaleb-brousse/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/classroom-narratives-healing-in-education-7021067/empathy-without-self-abandonment-unhooking-from-survival-mode-in-leadership-and-teaching-with-leila-boutaleb-brousse.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.