# Michael Caref Visits My Branch

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Podcast: [Classes of Mail](https://stenobird.com/podcast/classes-of-mail-6306410)
Published: 2026-04-11T10:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

My branch (2502) invited Mike Caref to come speak. I don't have a recording of his speech, but I did take a lot of notes. In this episode, Michael Brasaemle and I give our impressions, and we related what was said. As an added bonus, I drove Caref to a campaign event the next morning, then went out to breakfast with him. We talk about that, too.

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