# Brenton's Favourite Book

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Podcast: [Civic Punks](https://stenobird.com/podcast/civic-punks-7565949)
Published: 2026-03-27T10:44:23+00:00
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## Resource

For this week's Rent Free, I sat down with Brenton Caffin, the founder of States of Change, to learn more about the book that has most shaped his thinking. He chose "Reimagining Organizations" by Frederic Laloux and shared how he has worked to apply its principles in both States of Change and Government.

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