# #194 Listening to the Land: How Regenerative Farmer Martin Royds Is Rewriting the Rules of Agriculture Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/citizen-science-show-5309056/194-listening-to-the-land-how-regenerative-farmer-martin-royds-is-rewriting-the-rules-of-agriculture Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/citizen-science-show-5309056/194-listening-to-the-land-how-regenerative-farmer-martin-royds-is-rewriting-the-rules-of-agriculture.md Podcast: [Citizen Science Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/citizen-science-show-5309056) Published: 2026-08-19T11:35:14+00:00 Episode link: https://jillamatong.com.au/ Audio file: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/61f9b731e619e20012dedf17/e/6a8594f21ad8716bb60fd280/media.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/citizen-science-show-5309056/episodes/194-listening-to-the-land-how-regenerative-farmer-martin-royds-is-rewriting-the-rules-of-agriculture Duration seconds: 3514 ## Resource What is the Australian landscape trying to tell us, and are we actually listening? In this episode, host John Marsh sits down with regenerative farmer Martin Royds of Jillamatong, near Braidwood, NSW, to explore a philosophy built over four decades: reading weeds, soil and water as feedback rather than problems to be sprayed away. Martin shares how a simple handful of urea outperforms a toxic, decades-old herbicide, why his nutrient-dense grass-finished beef was once rejected by a supermarket for having the "wrong" coloured fat, and the remarkable story of senior fast food executives travelling from the United States to see his water-positive farming system firsthand. The conversation ranges from Indigenous knowledge and the hidden marketing history behind "grain-fed" beef, to Sydney's multi-billion-dollar water infrastructure debate, and closes with Martin's simple advice for anyone, farmer or city dweller, wanting to reconnect with the living systems around them. More Information Jillamatong: https://jillamatong.com.au/ Soils for Life interview: https://soilsforlife.org.au/the-jillamatong-story/ Australian Museum Interview: https://australian.museum/learn/climate-change/climate-solutions/future-now-makers/green-solutions/ The Mulloon Institute: https://mullooninstitute.org/2019/11/06/braidwoods-secret-water-supply-waiting-in-weir/ Soils for Life PODCAST: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/making-decisions-in-the-dry-with-martin-royds/id1582582411?i=1000709860943 The Land Article: https://www.theland.com.au/story/9179532/drought-resilience-lessons-from-aussie-farmers/ Charlie Arnott Podcast Episode: https://charliearnott.com.au/s2-e3-martin-royd/ ABC: https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2010-09-21/braidwood-farmer-looks-to-diversification/6195980 Landcare: https://la… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/citizen-science-show-5309056/episodes/194-listening-to-the-land-how-regenerative-farmer-martin-royds-is-rewriting-the-rules-of-agriculture/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/citizen-science-show-5309056/194-listening-to-the-land-how-regenerative-farmer-martin-royds-is-rewriting-the-rules-of-agriculture.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.