# #189 Why Killing Sharks Won't Make Our Beaches Safer with Jessica Meeuwig Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/citizen-science-show-5309056/189-why-killing-sharks-won-t-make-our-beaches-safer-with-jessica-meeuwig Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/citizen-science-show-5309056/189-why-killing-sharks-won-t-make-our-beaches-safer-with-jessica-meeuwig.md Podcast: [Citizen Science Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/citizen-science-show-5309056) Published: 2026-06-24T09:18:27+00:00 Episode link: http://www.meeuwig.org/ Audio file: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/61f9b731e619e20012dedf17/e/6a3b980826f9b8cadeb0b126/media.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/citizen-science-show-5309056/episodes/189-why-killing-sharks-won-t-make-our-beaches-safer-with-jessica-meeuwig Duration seconds: 1350 ## Resource After a number of shark bites on Australian beaches, the calls for a cull are growing louder. But does killing sharks actually make us safer? Marine ecologist Dr Jessica Meeuwig (UWA) joins Sarah Han-de-Beaux to separate fact from fear with the data: Why Hawaii's 1950s cull of over 5,000 sharks did nothing to reduce bites. Why Western Australia's $1.3 million drumline program caught zero white sharks. Why “shark numbers are exploding” is biologically impossible. Jessica unpacks the real ecological role sharks play, from protecting coral reefs to keeping seagrass beds intact, and lays out the evidence-based alternatives actually proven to reduce risk: drones, citizen science spotter programs, deterrent technology and serious investment in research. A clear-eyed, compassionate, and urgently needed conversation for anyone who loves the ocean. More Information http://www.meeuwig.org/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bMn7RuW3Qc https://sharkspotters.org.za/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa5OBhXz-Q https://www.nps.gov/yell/learn/management/wolf.htm https://www.aims.gov.au/information-centre/news-and-stories/sharks-increase-reef-resilience?   https://conbio.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/conl.12185 If you enjoy this podcast, please like and subscribe to our show wherever you get your podcasts. Leave us a review and share this show with your friends. It really helps us to reach more citizen scientists, like you. Contact the Show We are always looking for more guests to tell us about interesting citizen science projects, research and events. You can email us at: info@citizenscienceshow.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/citizen-science-show-5309056/episodes/189-why-killing-sharks-won-t-make-our-beaches-safer-with-jessica-meeuwig/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/citizen-science-show-5309056/189-why-killing-sharks-won-t-make-our-beaches-safer-with-jessica-meeuwig.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.