# Cloud Security Meets AI: What CISOs Need to Govern Before They Scale - Brent Neal - CSP #226 Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/ciso-stories-podcast-audio-3570889/cloud-security-meets-ai-what-cisos-need-to-govern-before-they-scale-brent-neal-csp-226 Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/ciso-stories-podcast-audio-3570889/cloud-security-meets-ai-what-cisos-need-to-govern-before-they-scale-brent-neal-csp-226.md Podcast: [CISO Stories Podcast (Audio)](https://stenobird.com/podcast/ciso-stories-podcast-audio-3570889) Published: 2026-07-13T16:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://cspaudio.libsyn.com/cloud-security-meets-ai-what-cisos-need-to-govern-before-they-scale-brent-neal-csp-226 Audio file: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/traffic.libsyn.com/secure/cspaudio/CSP_226_1--19dfa8c7-b859-4988-a0c1-a1ea25f23950--audio-converted--61865229-7eb2-4da7-b678-a63a681f69a4.mp3?dest-id=2584793 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/ciso-stories-podcast-audio-3570889/episodes/cloud-security-meets-ai-what-cisos-need-to-govern-before-they-scale-brent-neal-csp-226 Duration seconds: 1853 ## Resource AI is changing cloud security fast, but the biggest challenge is not just adoption. It is governance. In this episode, Jess sits down with Brent Neil, CISO at RapidScale, to talk about what CISOs should be watching as AI becomes embedded in cloud environments, business workflows, and sensitive data systems. Brent shares practical insight on AI governance, identity and access, cloud security controls, and the risks that emerge when experimentation moves into production. The conversation explores how security leaders can support innovation without losing visibility, accountability, or trust. Brent also breaks down the questions CISOs should be asking before AI tools scale deeper into the enterprise. Because AI may be unavoidable, but unmanaged AI risk is optional. Segment Resources: RapidScale's IT Talent Gap Report: https://try.rapidscale.net/the-talent-gap/ This segment is sponsored by Arctic Wolf. Visit https://cisostoriespodcast.com/arcticwolf to learn more about them! Visit https://cisostoriespodcast.com for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://cisostoriespodcast.com/csp-226 ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/ciso-stories-podcast-audio-3570889/episodes/cloud-security-meets-ai-what-cisos-need-to-govern-before-they-scale-brent-neal-csp-226/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/ciso-stories-podcast-audio-3570889/cloud-security-meets-ai-what-cisos-need-to-govern-before-they-scale-brent-neal-csp-226.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.