# Agents at the Door: Vetting Non-Human Identities in External IAM - Rakesh Soni - CSP #219 Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/ciso-stories-podcast-audio-3570889/agents-at-the-door-vetting-non-human-identities-in-external-iam-rakesh-soni-csp-219 Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/ciso-stories-podcast-audio-3570889/agents-at-the-door-vetting-non-human-identities-in-external-iam-rakesh-soni-csp-219.md Podcast: [CISO Stories Podcast (Audio)](https://stenobird.com/podcast/ciso-stories-podcast-audio-3570889) Published: 2025-12-08T17:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://cspaudio.libsyn.com/agents-at-the-door-vetting-non-human-identities-in-external-iam-rakesh-soni-csp-219 Audio file: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/traffic.libsyn.com/secure/cspaudio/CSP_219_1--6360853c-2cad-4731-8149-724e104a089c--audio-converted--f5cda152-ad5c-4de2-b23e-fba1c8b2295c.mp3?dest-id=2584793 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/ciso-stories-podcast-audio-3570889/episodes/agents-at-the-door-vetting-non-human-identities-in-external-iam-rakesh-soni-csp-219 Duration seconds: 1768 ## Resource This episode was about agentic IAM—what it is and the risks that come with letting non-human agents act for customers. We defined external IAM, then traced how the industry moved from basic login and MFA to consent, delegation, and now agent-to-agent interactions. Along the way we unpacked key risks for CISOs and practitioners to consider. Segment Resources: https://www.loginradius.com/ https://customeriambook.com/ Visit https://cisostoriespodcast.com for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://cisostoriespodcast.com/csp-219 ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/ciso-stories-podcast-audio-3570889/episodes/agents-at-the-door-vetting-non-human-identities-in-external-iam-rakesh-soni-csp-219/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/ciso-stories-podcast-audio-3570889/agents-at-the-door-vetting-non-human-identities-in-external-iam-rakesh-soni-csp-219.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.