# It's Not That We Don't Value Your Experience, We Just Don't Want to Pay for It

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Podcast: [CISO Series Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/ciso-series-podcast-333585)
Published: 2026-06-23T10:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

All links and images can be found on CISO Series This week's episode is hosted by David Spark , producer of CISO Series and Andy Ellis , principal of Duha . Joining is Megan Samford , vp product and supply chain security, Schneider Electric. In this episode: Two modes of CISO The vendor has the keys The economic argument for secure code Burning through the talent A huge thanks to our sponsor, Native Security Native makes secure-by-design inherent to how the cloud operates. It's the control plane for built-in cloud security, unifying and governing native controls, so security intent is defined once and applied consistently across providers. Learn more at native.security .

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