# Rep. Thomas Massie talks Trump, the 'Big Beautiful Bill' and the Epstein Files

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Podcast: [Cincinnati Edition](https://stenobird.com/podcast/cincinnati-edition-324300)
Published: 2026-05-13T17:58:15+00:00
Episode link: https://www.wvxu.org/show/cincinnati-edition/2026-05-13/thomas-massie-lucy-may-interview
Audio file: https://cpa.ds.npr.org/s703/audio/2026/05/260513-ce-full-show-mixdown-1.mp3
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Duration seconds: 2877

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On Cincinnati Edition, he also discusses his primary challenger and why the president is backing his opponent.

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