# Defender Shield with Daniel DeBaun

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Podcast: [Church and State](https://stenobird.com/podcast/church-and-state-5318626)
Published: 2026-08-20T15:48:24+00:00
Episode link: https://churchandstate.podbean.com/e/defender-shield-with-daniel-debaun/
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Duration seconds: 3024

## Resource

Caleb welcomed Daniel for a conversation about how all the signals can affect us and what we can do about it. https://www.defendershield.com/ Church and State is brought to you by, YOU! Visit us at: https://churchandstate.media where you can support us by donating directly and find links to shop with our affiliates.

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