# Leadership Journeys [288] - Michelle Hill - "The quality of your life is the quality of your relationships."

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Podcast: [Choosing Leadership with Sumit Gupta](https://stenobird.com/podcast/choosing-leadership-with-sumit-gupta-4623737)
Published: 2026-06-29T08:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://10genpartners.com/choosing-leadership-podcast/
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Duration seconds: 2820

## Resource

This is the Leadership Journey series on the Choosing Leadership Podcast. I believe we all have a lot to learn from each other's stories - of where we started, where we are now, and our successes and struggles on the way. With this series of interviews, I attempt to give leaders an opportunity to share their stories and for all of us to learn from their generous sharing. If you know a leader whom you would like to see celebrated on the show, please send me a message on LinkedIn with their name. What does it take to lead through growth, uncertainty, and the constant pressure to have it all figured out? In this episode of Choosing Leadership, Sumit Gupta sits down with Michelle Hill, CEO of TLC, to explore her journey from a young woman passionate about social justice to leading a national organisation with an ambitious vision for change. Together, they unpack the realities of leadership, including self-doubt, imposter syndrome, scaling culture, and the importance of building genuine relationships in a divided world. Michelle shares hard-earned lessons on self-care, resilience, and staying true to your values while pursuing bold goals. If you're navigating leadership challenges, growing a team, or striving to create a greater impact, this conversation will leave you with practical insights and a renewed perspective on what leadership really requires. You can find Michelle Hill at the links below https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-hill-567495a8/ https://talklistenchange.org.uk/ In the interview, Michelle shares "Leadership begins when you stop waiting for permission and start making choices that align with the difference you want to make." "The strongest leaders understand that you cannot pour from an empty cup; self-care is not a luxury, it's a responsibility." "Growth…

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