# PAT SHEA - Chirping Zebras Podcast - Ep 15

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Podcast: [Chirping Zebras](https://stenobird.com/podcast/chirping-zebras-6863818)
Published: 2024-05-21T15:41:34+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/chirping-zebras/episodes/PAT-SHEA---Chirping-Zebras-Podcast---Ep-15-e2jud0g
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Duration seconds: 4542

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