# FRAN DOYLE | Chirping Zebras Podcast | Ep #79

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Published: 2025-09-19T10:05:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 5619

## Resource

The fellas had Fran Doyle on Chirping Zebras this week — absolute wagon of a guest if you’re into the stripes side of sports. Fran’s a lacrosse ref who’s seen it all: youth parents losing their minds, box lacrosse turning into a warzone, and the politics that come with officiating. They chop it up about how lacrosse culture stacks up against hockey, what refs actually get paid (spoiler: not much), and the insurance/academy grind that’s changing youth sports. Tons of unreal insight but also a ton of laughs, with Fran telling stories about navigating the circus that is being a ref. Beauty episode.

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