# Second Breakfast: Iran and the DIB with Fmr SECAF Frank Kendall

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Podcast: [ChinaTalk](https://stenobird.com/podcast/chinatalk-418044)
Published: 2026-03-06T16:43:00+00:00
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## Resource

Frank Kendall served as the 26th Secretary of the Air Force from 2021 to 2025. Before that he was Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and Logistics under Obama. His new book, Lethal Autonomy: The Future of Warfare, comes out in June. Cohosting today is Bryan Clark of Hudson, JustinMc and Eric Robinson. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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