# Jen Pahlka on an Optimistic Vision for Government Renewal!

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Podcast: [ChinaTalk](https://stenobird.com/podcast/chinatalk-418044)
Published: 2026-03-27T09:25:00+00:00
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## Resource

Jen Pahlka is an American Hero, in a past life the US Deputy Chief Technology Officer and member of the Defense Innovation Board. She wrote Recoding America and the wonderful Eating Policy substack (https://www.eatingpolicy.com/?utm_campaign=profile_chips). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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