# Emergency Pod: Claude Fable Fried + What's Going on at BIS?

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Podcast: [ChinaTalk](https://stenobird.com/podcast/chinatalk-418044)
Published: 2026-06-15T21:58:00+00:00
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## Resource

Chris McGuire, former civil servant in State and the Biden White House now at CFR, talk about the export control craziness of these past two weeks. We discuss: The 5:21 PM letter that took the world's most powerful model offline Why the "let it rip" administration pivoted to mandatory AI regulation overnight The incoherent export-control regime: regs that still say one thing while policy says another The overseas-subsidiary loophole, the Sunday emergency fix, and the foundry gap still left open outtro music: https://suno.com/s/UVeDiboPyj0jvIgO Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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