# He Told the Taipei Mayor He's Not CIA. The Mayor Confessed Anyways

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Podcast: [China Unscripted](https://stenobird.com/podcast/china-unscripted-70183)
Published: 2026-04-02T17:07:38+00:00
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## Resource

Watch the full podcast! https://chinauncensored.tv/programs/podcast-331 Former Taipei Mayor Ko Wen-je spoke with human rights researcher and author Ethan Gutmann for a book he was writing about organ harvesting prisoners of conscience in China. Gutmann said he wasn't with the CIA but Ko confessed anyways. Gutmann is out with a new book called The Xinjiang Procedure that delves into Ko Wen-je's connection to organ harvesting in China. You can order it at https://www.amazon.com/Xinjiang-Procedure-Ethan-Gutmann/dp/1968919201

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